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Old 08-04-2020, 04:52 AM
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Into each life a little ATF must fall, or something like that. Breaking everything down is a milestone event. Now comes the satisfaction of reassembly. This has been a great build to watch.
Thanks Bob, yup it's seems Like ATF is one of those things that just have to spill.

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Your adventures made me laugh Dozer (because I can relate!). This is where the old, "no good deed goes unpunished" fits - you did too good of a job cleaning up the shop! Lol. I'm glad you found very few issues inside of the big 440.
I had a good laugh when it was over as well Bill, I should know better than making a plan.

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Now that's a video I'd love to watch....

Never fails 2hr job turning into all day happens more often than not
Glad you got things going your way now....shop still looks good
My intent was to film the removevale, needless to say I got a little busy and forgot about that.
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Old 08-04-2020, 04:56 AM
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yeeeowch!

atf is just really detergent motor oil, so dont look at it as a spill, look at it as CLEANING and SEALING the floor haha


cam bearings look... fun!
There ya go, I was just carrying on the cleaning, cam bearings I will probably farm out.

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Any idea what would cause the cam bearings to do that? Improper factory install, maybe. Seems they worked anyway.
I had an old engine builder come over to look at it and his thoughts were that on a start after sitting for a long time maybe years the cam had glued itself to the bearings and when it turned it cracked all the babbit free.

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Skip, The 440 I used out of a motor home had the same issues with the cam bearings! I heard all kinds of hair brained ideas as to what caused it and decided "it is what it is", threw them in the trash and never gave it another thought. KEEP HAMMERING ON IT!
Maybe and issue with the material they used on those bearings.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:59 AM
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Glad you got that difficult pull done with just one black fingernail. Tear down inspections are a good thing.
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Old 08-04-2020, 01:53 PM
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Looks like those cam bearings were helped in with a chisel. You can see strike marks along the edges of the cam bearings...no wonder they went to pieces.
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Old 08-05-2020, 04:19 AM
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Glad you got that difficult pull done with just one black fingernail. Tear down inspections are a good thing.
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Looks like those cam bearings were helped in with a chisel. You can see strike marks along the edges of the cam bearings...no wonder they went to pieces.
I took the block to the machine shop for a bath and the new cam bearings. The owner said he has seen that lots on old Dodge engines that have sat for long periods of time.
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Old 08-05-2020, 11:44 AM
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Dozerman, you're making me rethink my decision to 'cheep-out' and not bath the block and replace the cam bearings, in an old Dodge engine that I'm doing.
Good on ya!
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Old 08-08-2020, 05:08 AM
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Dozerman, you're making me rethink my decision to 'cheep-out' and not bath the block and replace the cam bearings, in an old Dodge engine that I'm doing.
Good on ya!
Ya I think it's a good idea MM low oil pressure is not a good thing.
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Old 08-08-2020, 03:03 PM
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A little update on the 440 for the Dodge, I got everything tore apart and inspected. The block is off to the Machine Shop for a bath, cam bearing and frost plugs. The crank looks good and polished up real well. The pistons look good and I will replace the rings. For some reason who ever installed the oil rings lined up the gaps on all rings on 5 of the 8 pistons, so I think I found the reason for all carbon oil build up on everything.
The heads are a mess and will have to be replaced, they are the worst casting number Dodge put out and aren't worth the $1000-1200 price tag to rebuild them. My middle son is into cars" I'll forgive him imports" and put out a request on a facebook car site he is on and a fellow came through right away with a couple sets of heads I can maybe get for a good price.

Here's a video of the findings. https://youtu.be/oe9wfVaXR40
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Old 08-08-2020, 03:24 PM
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here`s some info that may help making decisions.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/in...topic=104749.0
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Old 08-09-2020, 04:29 AM
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here`s some info that may help making decisions.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/in...topic=104749.0
Thanks dutch very interesting.
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