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Old 01-30-2016, 07:15 PM
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Here's some questions:

How are your welding and fabrication skills?
How much money do you have?
How much time do you have?

If you can find a orphaned project, that's the cheapest way to go - IF it was well done in the first place. Fixing someone else's shoddy work isn't cheap. Be very wary of any chopped vehicle without the glass installed.

Post war cabs are wider and have more room than the pre-war cabs, but aren't as easy to get the visual proportions right. You could go all big with a post war cab and 1 ton running gear. Throw in a big ol' diesel for power.

Go to a few car shows and ask truck owners if you can sit in their cabs for a test fit.
I did 2.5 years of Welding in high school, I still remember a lot of it. I've been looking at picking up a MIG Welder to help with weld jobs on my brothers trucks (79 Ford F-150 Custom, V8 400 6.6 Litre, and 96 Ford F-150 Original 327 in it (I think)). I've welded nearly everything, except for cast iron, galvanized by accident, haha. As for money, I'm single, and no kids. I have money


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The newer the cab, the more room in it. But, like Sam said, it's harder to make look right--a 32 ford grill looks goofy in front of a 53 Chevy or 60 Ford.

I had a 36 Dodge cab that had a serious chop and channel on it. I'm 5'11" and to have legroom and head room I had to sit almost on the floor. Any higher and I was looking at the top of the windsheild. It would have been pretty uncomfortable to ride in with only 1" of adding between you and the floor, so I got rid of it.
Pardon the noob, but channeled? When I sat in my teachers Rat Rod he had, I was about 6'3" then, I had to slouch. I believe he used a Mustang or Corvette frame for his rat, not 100% sure, been too long.

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Most people could not even get in my 27
It looked absolutely killer though.
My wife never considered actually driving it
Too dang small
Sit on the floor brakes on left side of steering column
Gas on the right
Not even room for inside door latches
Never found a e brakes lever or handle small enough to install
Etc
I'm single. I would drive this during the summer mostly, dates and an event called "Classy Chassis". Any vehicle is allowed in, however it has to be street legal. We've got cars that show up that are hand crank to modern. No flames or roasting is allowed. We had a problem with someone getting sprayed in the back with a 6ft flame from a Rat Rod.

Thanks for all the responses. I'm in Central Washington, I can drive to Seattle in 3.5 hours, or Drive to Idaho/Oregon in 4 - 6. Hauling a trailer, an extra hour (Officers get cranky when you do 70 with a trailer ) I mentioned the 79 Ford above, it has a pretty gnarly sounding engine in it. I don't care about gas mileage or anything of that sort. If I wanted to put a 454 in a rod, will I be limited on frames I can use? Wish there was a "Idiots Guide to Building Rods", haha.
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Old 01-30-2016, 07:56 PM
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Punched in building hotrods for dummies just for giggles
this came up.......

http://www.amazon.com/How-Build-Hot-.../dp/0760313040

good luck
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:07 PM
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BinaryData, the term "channeled" means the body is lowered over the frame rails, instead of being above them. When you channel a body, you cut the floor out and raise it the amount that the body is lowered over the frame, that makes head room shorter, and sometimes depending on the slope of the firewall, foot room smaller. The larger transmission tunnel required with a channeled body also diminishes foot room. My Dodge had a 6" channel and a 6" top chop , so it lost 12" of head room.

Oh, by the way, Mustangs never had a frame, they were unit body. Possible it could have been a pre-83 Corvette, they were full frame. In 84, Corvette went unit body too.
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:26 PM
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l belong to this web site, there a good bunch too, may have to join to view all the articles.


http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/guid...ers-25815.html


link to article:

http://www.how-to-build-hotrods.com/


no idea on this one, may have to join to view:

http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/gettingstarted.html

link:

https://www.lelandwest.com/street-rod-resource-page.cfm

link:


http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Rat-Rod

link;

http://www.oregonhotrod.com/how_to.htm

link;

http://www.roguehangar.com/ratrods/W...-a-rat-rod.htm

link;

http://www.ehow.com/how_2101681_chea...d-rat-rod.html

link to a book on rods;

http://www.amazon.com/Chassis-Builde.../dp/076033532X

link;

http://www.uk-hotrods.co.uk/v2/so_ya...e_a_rodder.php

link;

http://hubpages.com/autos/A-Guide-To-Building-A-Rat-Rod

link;

http://www.rodplans.com/

link;

http://www.hotrodtruckplans.com/rat-rod-truck/

How to Build a Cheap Hot Rod Rat Rod link;

http://www.oregonhotrod.com/building_rat_rod.htm

link;

http://www.ebay.com/gds/How-To-Build...8717007/g.html

link;

http://www.tbucketplans.com/how-to-b...-it-old-skool/

that should keep ya busy for awhile

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Old 01-30-2016, 11:10 PM
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Punched in building hotrods for dummies just for giggles
this came up.......

http://www.amazon.com/How-Build-Hot-.../dp/0760313040

good luck
I didn't think there was anything like that, but schucks, I was wrong. I might buy one of those books to see how things are done.


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BinaryData, the term "channeled" means the body is lowered over the frame rails, instead of being above them. When you channel a body, you cut the floor out and raise it the amount that the body is lowered over the frame, that makes head room shorter, and sometimes depending on the slope of the firewall, foot room smaller. The larger transmission tunnel required with a channeled body also diminishes foot room. My Dodge had a 6" channel and a 6" top chop , so it lost 12" of head room.

Oh, by the way, Mustangs never had a frame, they were unit body. Possible it could have been a pre-83 Corvette, they were full frame. In 84, Corvette went unit body too.
That totally makes sense, about the channeled. I'd most likely not do that, haha.


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l belong to this web site, there a good bunch too, may have to join to view all the articles.


http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/guid...ers-25815.html


link to article:

http://www.how-to-build-hotrods.com/


no idea on this one, may have to join to view:

http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/gettingstarted.html

link:

https://www.lelandwest.com/street-rod-resource-page.cfm

link:


http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Rat-Rod

link;

http://www.oregonhotrod.com/how_to.htm

link;

http://www.roguehangar.com/ratrods/W...-a-rat-rod.htm

link;

http://www.ehow.com/how_2101681_chea...d-rat-rod.html

link to a book on rods;

http://www.amazon.com/Chassis-Builde.../dp/076033532X

link;

http://www.uk-hotrods.co.uk/v2/so_ya...e_a_rodder.php

link;

http://hubpages.com/autos/A-Guide-To-Building-A-Rat-Rod

link;

http://www.rodplans.com/

link;

http://www.hotrodtruckplans.com/rat-rod-truck/

How to Build a Cheap Hot Rod Rat Rod link;

http://www.oregonhotrod.com/building_rat_rod.htm

link;

http://www.ebay.com/gds/How-To-Build...8717007/g.html

link;

http://www.tbucketplans.com/how-to-b...-it-old-skool/

that should keep ya busy for awhile

Later
Yes, this will keep me busy. Almost all the rods I've seen are automatic, is it frowned upon to do a manual? or is it just due to space constraints? I'll keep posting pictures of things I find. I want to put this logo on the back;

5FDP Skull

My favorite band. however, depending on which route I take, hot rod or rat rod will be left up to my wallet, and when I finish the project.
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Old 01-30-2016, 11:37 PM
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nice skull (and l should know)

manual or auto, you have to drive it so whatever makes you happy

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194OISH street legal race car
http://ratrodsrule.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24766

1935 vintage modified street legal race car
http://ratrodsrule.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33748

1930 2dr mopar.
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Old 01-31-2016, 09:42 AM
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"Almost all the rods I've seen are automatic, is it frowned upon to do a manual?"
As Skull said personal choice.
I used a Super T10 4 speed in my 33 because I was bored at putting the auto shifter in gear and just steering.
There's more to installing a standard tranny too and this may be why most choose an auto.
You also have to have enough floor space for three pedals.
Another reason for going auto is just not having to mess with the shifting part.
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Older rods are very small inside. After a while, having to shift a manual in close quarters can get tiring.

To each their own.
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I had an idea, take a jock shift with the clutch handle on the shifter like a motorcycle. modern motorcycles have hand clutches but with a hydraulic clutch, there is no reason you couldn't put a clutch handle on the shifter with a cable that went to the clutch and hooked up to the hydraulic master cylinder. Just a thought, you could even make it look like a reverse lockout handle so it wouldn't look out of place.

somting lika dis

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1935 vintage modified street legal race car
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:28 AM
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I had an idea, take a jock shift with the clutch handle on the shifter like a motorcycle. modern motorcycles have hand clutches but with a hydraulic clutch, there is no reason you couldn't put a clutch handle on the shifter with a cable that went to the clutch and hooked up to the hydraulic master cylinder. Just a thought, you could even make it look like a reverse lockout handle so it wouldn't look out of place.

somting lika dis

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You might need hulk strength to activate it though. Car clutches need a lot more force to activate than a motorcycle clutch. Even with hydraulic, I'm thinking it would be more than hand strength.
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