Undead Sleds / Rat Rods Rule - Hot Rods, Rat Rods, Sleepers, Beaters & Bikes... since 2007!

Go Back   Undead Sleds / Rat Rods Rule - Hot Rods, Rat Rods, Sleepers, Beaters & Bikes... since 2007! > Undead Sleds... makin' old tin Undead every day! > Rat Rod & Hot Rod Talk

Rat Rod & Hot Rod Talk General discussion of car type stuff!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #2181  
Old 12-25-2019, 06:53 PM
kenny c kenny c is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: West Greenwich R.I.
Posts: 4,149
Default

No idea on why there is so much sand. Up hear in Rhode Island we are supposed to drive the 6" casing into the bedrock. Sometimes it doesn't get that far and ground water will wash in to the shaft carrying sand, silt, and other contaminants into the well. Other times there can be fissures in the bedrock that not only bring water into the well shaft but rinse sand and silt in with it also. If the sand is coming in above the pump it may be coming in from ground water as you get lots of heavy rains. This may sound weird but we once had a customer who's well would get filled in with sand and every year we would have to pump it out. If we weren't careful and didn't pump the water far enough away it would rinse back into the well taking more sand with it. This may be happening to you. As with any hole it hard so see inside, never mind one that deep so these are just guesses. Good luck.
Reply With Quote
  #2182  
Old 12-25-2019, 07:14 PM
smallfoot's Avatar
smallfoot smallfoot is offline
He's rockin' the "Nuttin Special"!
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Flawda Flats
Posts: 7,007
Default

Casing top is 12" above the ground. It's never been under water even in the hardest rains.
I don't think it's coming in from the top. Are you saying it might be going down the outside of the casing? The way this sand is acting, I think there's a lot of silt. I poured a bucket full out of the air lift end about noon. There is a bunch of sand that settled but the water, undisturbed, still looks like mud. It's been sitting all afternoon.
Reply With Quote
  #2183  
Old 12-25-2019, 08:01 PM
Skip's Avatar
Skip Skip is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 3,648
Default

i was waken up by a big thump about 9:40 this morning. Looked out the front window, and someone was parked in the space between my driveway and the neighbor's. And the new power pole from this summer was broken in half laying across my driveway. Some of the neighbors caught the driver trying to run away from the scene. Drunk as a skunk. So, from around 10:30 to almost 4:00 I got to watch the power company replace the pole and restore power to the block. I got off easy. The mast to my service is a little loose, but my neighbor's was torn clear off the side of their house. And to msake it even more fun, they are out of state visiting family. I called them and let them know what happened. The power company crews were great. I'm warming up again, and fed. Life is good. Happy holidays to the lot of you.
__________________
39 Ford PU Build. http://ratrodsrule.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36459
1928 Ford Tudor Build http://ratrodsrule.com/forum/showthread.php?p=538231#post538231
The thing about a '39 Ford pick-up is that that ugly grille kinda' grows on ya' after a while.

Not taking anything too seriously.
Reply With Quote
  #2184  
Old 12-25-2019, 09:25 PM
kenny c kenny c is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: West Greenwich R.I.
Posts: 4,149
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smallfoot View Post
Casing top is 12" above the ground. It's never been under water even in the hardest rains.
I don't think it's coming in from the top. Are you saying it might be going down the outside of the casing? The way this sand is acting, I think there's a lot of silt. I poured a bucket full out of the air lift end about noon. There is a bunch of sand that settled but the water, undisturbed, still looks like mud. It's been sitting all afternoon.
I think it may be possible. I have no expeirence with the way you described wells and pumps are done in Florida so I don't have as much insight as you. We don't have the sand that you have so the situation is different.
Reply With Quote
  #2185  
Old 12-31-2019, 02:26 PM
earthman's Avatar
earthman earthman is offline
Fascinated by rolling objects!
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tempe AZ on the corner of Oak and Southern
Posts: 12,103
Default

Glad your heat is back on Skip. I don't like cold.
__________________
Street Urchins RRC

'30 Ford tudor
'42 Chevy pu
'23 Ford bucket
'27 Ford rdst
'88 vette monowoody
'25 wood cpe
'25 IH rdst pu project
'26 Ford bucket project
Reply With Quote
  #2186  
Old 01-01-2020, 09:20 AM
smallfoot's Avatar
smallfoot smallfoot is offline
He's rockin' the "Nuttin Special"!
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Flawda Flats
Posts: 7,007
Default

Well......damit! Got the new pump up about 10 ft, stuck again and pulled apart.
OK, down about 20 ft. and brand new $ 500 pump, all the drop pipe and all cable came out, so we assembled 40 ft of 2" galvanized pipe and pounded the dam thing back down intending on pushing it down as deep as we could. Got down to the original pump location and it stuck again, a 9lb. sledge only pushed it another 2 ft(32 ft). It's bottomed on sand. sheesh!
Put another brand new pump down at 24 ft. and held it by hand so I could move it and just hooked power to the pump and was intending on seeing if another regular well pump would pull the sand out and quicker. Flipped the switch, pump worked great for about 5 minutes hauling up sand by the buckets and lots of muddy water. I was watching as it ran, ready to shut off and pull if it failed. I could hear the pump running and then the water stopped but still heard the pump. I flipped the disconnect switch and pulled the pump up by hand. When it came out of the casing, I noticed a wobble between the pump and motor. Got it on the ground and pulled the screen around the intake. As soon as I got behind the screen, I could see why it wobbled. I think the sand locked the pump and the torque of the motor twisted the assembly enough to snap the legs holding the pump to the motor. Boys, I did everything possible by me to save the well. Calling the well drillers out to place a new well. Maybe rust has opened a hole in the casing, another possibility that is not apparent from top side but I just don't think I could have pumped this much sand out of a 4" casing at 105' and be left with a dump truck load of sand. They didn't leave this much sand after drilling the original well. Now, I've got to start trimming trees to get a drilling rig where it was easy almost 30 years ago. Good bye shade!
Reply With Quote
  #2187  
Old 01-01-2020, 11:09 AM
Old Iron's Avatar
Old Iron Old Iron is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Willard Mo.
Posts: 14,919
Default

Good grief small
Reply With Quote
  #2188  
Old 01-01-2020, 02:36 PM
DozerII's Avatar
DozerII DozerII is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Saskatchewan Can.
Posts: 4,642
Default

That really sucks SF
__________________
Glen
My 29 Essex Build http://ratrodsrule.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34026

Don't give up, it's far too much fun once you can drive it.
Reply With Quote
  #2189  
Old 01-01-2020, 02:45 PM
smallfoot's Avatar
smallfoot smallfoot is offline
He's rockin' the "Nuttin Special"!
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Flawda Flats
Posts: 7,007
Default

Yeah, I could build another hotrod for what this will cost....
Reply With Quote
  #2190  
Old 01-01-2020, 04:04 PM
Dr Crankenstein's Avatar
Dr Crankenstein Dr Crankenstein is offline
Rocket Surgeon
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SK CAN
Posts: 8,000
Default

The state will now be known as Lorida, because smallfoot used all the effs!

.
__________________
- The distinction between psychological illness and creative thinking is wafer thin -

1937 Chevy Coupe
1938 Chevy Sedan

Photo Posting and Resizing
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Rat Rods Rule Inc.