Undead Sleds / Rat Rods Rule - Hot Rods, Rat Rods, Sleepers, Beaters & Bikes... since 2007!

Go Back   Undead Sleds / Rat Rods Rule - Hot Rods, Rat Rods, Sleepers, Beaters & Bikes... since 2007! > Frame/Suspension/Brake... Talk & Q&A

Frame/Suspension/Brake... Talk & Q&A All things... Frame/Suspension/Brake

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-04-2019, 01:47 PM
DozerII's Avatar
DozerII DozerII is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Saskatchewan Can.
Posts: 2,915
Default Steering wheel size

Hey Guys, looking for a little guidance for the steering on my 28 Dodge. It has a Big Block, MustangII front suspension with air bags and a manual rack. What diameter steering wheel will be best?

Also I got my column 3/4 double D shaft and joints. The joints have two set screws on each end one short and one long, The short one I understand, the long one do you drill all the way through the shaft or only part way?

Thanks
__________________
Glen
My 29 Essex Build http://ratrodsrule.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34026

Don't give up, it's far too much fun once you can drive it.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-04-2019, 02:06 PM
Tripper's Avatar
Tripper Tripper is offline
Older and more rusted every day!
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Tejas
Posts: 12,605
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DozerII View Post
Hey Guys, looking for a little guidance for the steering on my 28 Dodge. It has a Big Block, MustangII front suspension with air bags and a manual rack. What diameter steering wheel will be best?
Dozer, think I'll prob use a 15" wheel on my '28 Dodge. Used that same size on my '41 Ford truck. Prob be a lil tight but you don't need a big wheel with a MII front end!

BoB
__________________
Rust... Mother Nature's paint job... don't fool with Mother Nature!

RRR on Facebook
RRR on Twitter
Wanted: Ratty '35 Olds coupe!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-04-2019, 02:21 PM
skull's Avatar
skull skull is offline
''SARCASM: just one of his many talents.''
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: wet side, washington state
Posts: 5,820
Lightbulb

13 inch on the 3Oish with manual rack, Mll front-end and coilover shocks, my car weighs about 23OO lbs and this wheel worked good for me.

Later
__________________
my opinion only, valid where prohibited, for official abuse only.

1928 maxwell hybrid build/drag car
http://ratrodsrule.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37455

1948 dodge truck in deceased son's memory.
http://www.ratrodsrule.com/forum/sho...odge+truck+son

1930 2dr mopar.
http://ratrodsrule.com/forum/showthr...ht=30+mopar+dr

Last edited by skull; 01-04-2019 at 06:47 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-04-2019, 03:56 PM
kenny c kenny c is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: West Greenwich R.I.
Posts: 2,885
Default

I think I would go as big as I could fit comfortably. You can see dash gauges better and it takes less effort to steer, also it would be less twitchy with movement. Just my opinion.
__________________
Tetanus Tornado 49 F6
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-04-2019, 08:06 PM
Bamamav's Avatar
Bamamav Bamamav is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Berry, Alabama
Posts: 4,813
Default

15" is pretty much normal factory size. I got a 66 Chevelle wheel to use on mine that is 15", but I'm using a 600 series power box.
__________________
2019 Undead Sleds Calendars available here--
https://www.zazzle.com/2019_undead_s...18503957825055
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-04-2019, 09:14 PM
Dr Crankenstein's Avatar
Dr Crankenstein Dr Crankenstein is offline
Rocket Surgeon
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SK CAN
Posts: 6,185
Default

The heaviest Mustang II was the fully dressed Cobra II @ 3200 lbs curb weight. To the best of my understanding, any Mustang II with power steering had a 15" wheel. Mustang II's with manual steering had 16" steering wheels.

Whether that info is accurate or not, I agree with kenny c, the largest wheel you feel comfortable with is your best bet for feel and effort.

I'm sure most everybody here has "palmed" a manually steered animal like a seasoned stunt driver... just saying, it's easier with a larger wheel and nobody here is getting any younger...

.
__________________
- The distinction between psychological illness and creative thinking is wafer thin -

1937 Chevy Coupe
1938 Chevy Sedan

Last edited by Dr Crankenstein; 01-04-2019 at 11:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-04-2019, 10:12 PM
Dr Crankenstein's Avatar
Dr Crankenstein Dr Crankenstein is offline
Rocket Surgeon
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SK CAN
Posts: 6,185
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DozerII View Post
Also I got my column 3/4 double D shaft and joints. The joints have two set screws on each end one short and one long, The short one I understand, the long one do you drill all the way through the shaft or only part way?
Drill a shallow "countersink" for each set screw to the same depth. The screw lengths are likely the same, but the wall thickness is different from horizontal to vertical in a DD joint... so, one screw will stand taller than the other, depending on your perspective and the joint's orientation.

My crayon illustration... the set screws are EXACTLY the same length, but one sticks out more than the other, due to the difference in wall thickness and their "reach" to the DD shaft...



From Ididit and Borgeson...



.
Attached Images
File Type: png Double D set screws1.png (21.3 KB, 38 views)
File Type: jpg Double D steering joint ididit.jpg (146.7 KB, 39 views)
__________________
- The distinction between psychological illness and creative thinking is wafer thin -

1937 Chevy Coupe
1938 Chevy Sedan

Last edited by Dr Crankenstein; 01-04-2019 at 11:02 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-05-2019, 07:01 AM
DozerII's Avatar
DozerII DozerII is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Saskatchewan Can.
Posts: 2,915
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Crankenstein View Post
Drill a shallow "countersink" for each set screw to the same depth. The screw lengths are likely the same, but the wall thickness is different from horizontal to vertical in a DD joint... so, one screw will stand taller than the other, depending on your perspective and the joint's orientation.

My crayon illustration... the set screws are EXACTLY the same length, but one sticks out more than the other, due to the difference in wall thickness and their "reach" to the DD shaft...



From Ididit and Borgeson...



.
Thanks Doc exactly what I needed. For some reason all the joints I got have one set screw 1/2"long and one 1"long
__________________
Glen
My 29 Essex Build http://ratrodsrule.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34026

Don't give up, it's far too much fun once you can drive it.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-05-2019, 10:43 AM
Old Iron's Avatar
Old Iron Old Iron is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Willard Mo.
Posts: 11,662
Default

All the joints I've gotten in the last 5 years have had the two different size set screws.
What I do is drill a divot the same depth as the diameter of the screw in question. I cut the longer screw off to length I need, grind a bevel on the end and drill the divot the same depth.
I've drilled the long screw hole most the way through but, it's a pita and just don't do it anymore.
As far as wheel diameter goes, I prefer small dia. wheels but, I don't like them in parking lots so, I carry a spare 17" wheel with me and switch them out as I'm pulling into a parking lot.
Just messin around this morning.

The wheel on my 33 is 14" after market with a reverse Corvair box and the wheel on my 37 is 17" with a Vega box. The 37 is way easier to manipulate in tight places.
As been said, the Mustang ll does not require as much effort.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-05-2019, 04:45 PM
DozerII's Avatar
DozerII DozerII is offline
Rusty Rat Rodder
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Saskatchewan Can.
Posts: 2,915
Default

Thanks Oldiron. 15 inch is gonna work great.
__________________
Glen
My 29 Essex Build http://ratrodsrule.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34026

Don't give up, it's far too much fun once you can drive it.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Rat Rods Rule Inc.