Thanks GasTrick, I haven't messed with cars for a while, and I didn't think it was a ford cause it wasn't a front loader, see how long I've been out of it? Fixed the tranny leak today, seemed like 3 lugs on the rr were striped out but what it was, it had wheel spacers on it and the studs were turning in those, so I got 2 new spacers on the way, couple more minor things and I'll feel safe to go anywhere in it, but thanks again, Mark.