32chris
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hey guys,
im looking for some help please, iv got some cash that i stashed away for a rainy day but as as this is england and it rains most of the time im gonna spend it !!!!
iv narrowed my cars down to two and im looking for opinions, advice etc on these........
1st off, a 1970 challenger..
a bit of the sellers blurb....
"440 Ci engine bored 0.30 (now 445.62 CI) with 1970 440 CI Cylinder heads (78.5cc heads cleaned up and re surfaced) with SB 1875 - 19PM Hardened Valve Seats.
00548 Intake valves , 01156 Exhaust Valves. Camshaft spec 462 lift and 270 duration
Edelbrock 440 Performer 440 Ally intake manifold
Edelbrock 70 CFM carb
Tube Technologies TTI headers for E body
Hemi 4 speed Hevy Duty Transmssion (18 spline)
Dana 60 Rear end with sure grip diff and 3.54 gears
Power dic brakes front
oversize drums rear
The invoice for the dana reads
DTS D60 Custom Dana - $2085
Custom Dana 60 for E body 35 spline axels w/-4 1/2 BC 1/2 x 20 x 2" screw in wheel studs 3.54 gears w / power lock posi 7290 yoke ll new bearings & seals "
Originally a 383 RT Challenger
Here is some more detail about the car and the restoration- I must stress this is gleaned from the two huge files of paperwork that came with the car so it will need to be taken at face value - all work was done in the US around 2002 / 2004 - before the car became mine- I have no reason to doubt the validity of any of the following but would recommend any interested party to fully inspect the car to their own satisfaction
" The body was both acid dipped and sand blasted - . All fenders , quarter panels , doors , roof , hood and trunk lid were completely straight and never hit. The uni body was also very straight. The uni body was mounted on automotive "Spikettes" and a total rotisserie style restoration was completed. The floorbards were replaced as was the trunk floor and new heavy gauge steel lower rear quarter panels were welded into place.
The Challenger has the following upgraded equipment:
Power Windows (all four) with stock window switches, power steering , front power disc brakes , complete factory aircon system , ralley instrument panel with 8 grand tach , rear window defogger , deluxe seatbelts throughout , interior front hood release , interior rear trunk release , correct "one year only" 1970 locking centre console with key , pistol grip 4 speed shifter , heavy duty "Hemi 4 speed transmission with 18 spline shaft (not typical 22 splines) , heavy duty sure grip Dana rear end with 3:54 gear ratio, Goodyear rubber, 15 x 8 Chrysler rally wheels , dual chrome tipped RT exhaust , R upgraded flip top gas cap , correct space saver spare tyre with inflator air canistor , correct bumper jack , with correct hook , upgraded bumper guards for rear bumber.
Everything else on the entire car was either replaced with new or like new condition items.
The engine is 440 cubic inches bored 30 thou over. Aluminium Edelbrock intake manifold and matching edelbrock carb with auto choke. The engine has the correct 1970 cylinder heads with hardened valve guides. (unleaded)
The cam shaft is mild and very streetable - The engine compartment has an oversize radiator , correct oversize oil pan , large capacity multi bladed , clutch fan with surrounding fan shroud, expensive TTI sterling silver finish headers , large capacity battery , Mopar performance valve covers and air cleaner, all wiring was replaced with new , The Hemi transmission was completely overhauled
The complete front end was completely replaced with all new bushings , rubber , idler arms etc - and the complete Dana rear end is new.
As far as original specs regarding the Challenger - It is an original RT VIN JS23N0B105685. The original engine was a 383 which has been upgraded to the current 440 CI. The block is a 1968 RBB. The Hemi 4 speed transmission and the dana rear end are both correct for the 440 engine. The original exterior colour was the Go Mango Orange color with the orange brick interior. Following the acid dipping and sand blasting the Challenger was repainted in the highly desirable 1969 Rally Red.
The interior was completely changed to black using. The headliner was replaced as were all the interior trim pieces including the seat backs carpeting and rt mats.
The Challenger comes with two huge files which include every single receipt from the initial purchase of the Challenger to the final detail parts. These bills total in excess of $40 ,000
or a 1970 trans am....
RARE AND DESIRABLE 1970 PONTIAC TRANS AM 400 RA 111 4-SPEED.
BUILT AT VAN NUYS OUT OF A HANDFULL MADE WITH THE OPPTIONS ORDERED. THIS IS THE REAL DEAL # 22887 TRANS AM RA 111.
THIS CAR HAS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE HISTORY FILE THAT I HAVE EVER HAD WITH ANY CAR WITH RECEIPTS TOTALING NEAR £100K FROM DAY ONE TILL PRESENT INC FULL RESTORATION.
ALL DOCUMENTED CORRECT BY PONTIAC HISTORIC SERVICES WITH ALL ORDER SHEETS ETC. SADLY THE ORIGINAL MOTOR WENT BANG LONG AGO AND IS NOW FITTED WITH DATE CORRECT "WX" CODE 455 STROKER @ 472CI WITH BEST OF EVERYTHING MAKING 600HP. ALL SPEC/RECEIPTS ON FILE.
EVEN WITH THE NONE MATCHING MOTOR THIS CAR IS CHEAP
THE SPEC ON THIS CAR IS HUGE, IT WOULD TAKE ME ALL NIGHT TO GO THROUGH IT AS IT IS A FOOT DEEP, SO PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL TO DISCUSS AS THIS WILL BE FARE EASIER. LAST OWNER FOR 25 YEARS AND VERY SELDOM USED.
THE CAR IS SUPERB AND I HAVE NOT SEEN BETTER, NOT ONLY RARE AND IMPORTANT BUT GREAT FUN AS SHE IS VERY, VERY, VERY QUICK!!!
both cars are (almost) the same price - £25,000, both look ace so anyone got any "real time" advice for me ??
thanks for your time guys
cheers
chris
im looking for some help please, iv got some cash that i stashed away for a rainy day but as as this is england and it rains most of the time im gonna spend it !!!!
iv narrowed my cars down to two and im looking for opinions, advice etc on these........
1st off, a 1970 challenger..
a bit of the sellers blurb....
"440 Ci engine bored 0.30 (now 445.62 CI) with 1970 440 CI Cylinder heads (78.5cc heads cleaned up and re surfaced) with SB 1875 - 19PM Hardened Valve Seats.
00548 Intake valves , 01156 Exhaust Valves. Camshaft spec 462 lift and 270 duration
Edelbrock 440 Performer 440 Ally intake manifold
Edelbrock 70 CFM carb
Tube Technologies TTI headers for E body
Hemi 4 speed Hevy Duty Transmssion (18 spline)
Dana 60 Rear end with sure grip diff and 3.54 gears
Power dic brakes front
oversize drums rear
The invoice for the dana reads
DTS D60 Custom Dana - $2085
Custom Dana 60 for E body 35 spline axels w/-4 1/2 BC 1/2 x 20 x 2" screw in wheel studs 3.54 gears w / power lock posi 7290 yoke ll new bearings & seals "
Originally a 383 RT Challenger
Here is some more detail about the car and the restoration- I must stress this is gleaned from the two huge files of paperwork that came with the car so it will need to be taken at face value - all work was done in the US around 2002 / 2004 - before the car became mine- I have no reason to doubt the validity of any of the following but would recommend any interested party to fully inspect the car to their own satisfaction
" The body was both acid dipped and sand blasted - . All fenders , quarter panels , doors , roof , hood and trunk lid were completely straight and never hit. The uni body was also very straight. The uni body was mounted on automotive "Spikettes" and a total rotisserie style restoration was completed. The floorbards were replaced as was the trunk floor and new heavy gauge steel lower rear quarter panels were welded into place.
The Challenger has the following upgraded equipment:
Power Windows (all four) with stock window switches, power steering , front power disc brakes , complete factory aircon system , ralley instrument panel with 8 grand tach , rear window defogger , deluxe seatbelts throughout , interior front hood release , interior rear trunk release , correct "one year only" 1970 locking centre console with key , pistol grip 4 speed shifter , heavy duty "Hemi 4 speed transmission with 18 spline shaft (not typical 22 splines) , heavy duty sure grip Dana rear end with 3:54 gear ratio, Goodyear rubber, 15 x 8 Chrysler rally wheels , dual chrome tipped RT exhaust , R upgraded flip top gas cap , correct space saver spare tyre with inflator air canistor , correct bumper jack , with correct hook , upgraded bumper guards for rear bumber.
Everything else on the entire car was either replaced with new or like new condition items.
The engine is 440 cubic inches bored 30 thou over. Aluminium Edelbrock intake manifold and matching edelbrock carb with auto choke. The engine has the correct 1970 cylinder heads with hardened valve guides. (unleaded)
The cam shaft is mild and very streetable - The engine compartment has an oversize radiator , correct oversize oil pan , large capacity multi bladed , clutch fan with surrounding fan shroud, expensive TTI sterling silver finish headers , large capacity battery , Mopar performance valve covers and air cleaner, all wiring was replaced with new , The Hemi transmission was completely overhauled
The complete front end was completely replaced with all new bushings , rubber , idler arms etc - and the complete Dana rear end is new.
As far as original specs regarding the Challenger - It is an original RT VIN JS23N0B105685. The original engine was a 383 which has been upgraded to the current 440 CI. The block is a 1968 RBB. The Hemi 4 speed transmission and the dana rear end are both correct for the 440 engine. The original exterior colour was the Go Mango Orange color with the orange brick interior. Following the acid dipping and sand blasting the Challenger was repainted in the highly desirable 1969 Rally Red.
The interior was completely changed to black using. The headliner was replaced as were all the interior trim pieces including the seat backs carpeting and rt mats.
The Challenger comes with two huge files which include every single receipt from the initial purchase of the Challenger to the final detail parts. These bills total in excess of $40 ,000
or a 1970 trans am....
RARE AND DESIRABLE 1970 PONTIAC TRANS AM 400 RA 111 4-SPEED.
BUILT AT VAN NUYS OUT OF A HANDFULL MADE WITH THE OPPTIONS ORDERED. THIS IS THE REAL DEAL # 22887 TRANS AM RA 111.
THIS CAR HAS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE HISTORY FILE THAT I HAVE EVER HAD WITH ANY CAR WITH RECEIPTS TOTALING NEAR £100K FROM DAY ONE TILL PRESENT INC FULL RESTORATION.
ALL DOCUMENTED CORRECT BY PONTIAC HISTORIC SERVICES WITH ALL ORDER SHEETS ETC. SADLY THE ORIGINAL MOTOR WENT BANG LONG AGO AND IS NOW FITTED WITH DATE CORRECT "WX" CODE 455 STROKER @ 472CI WITH BEST OF EVERYTHING MAKING 600HP. ALL SPEC/RECEIPTS ON FILE.
EVEN WITH THE NONE MATCHING MOTOR THIS CAR IS CHEAP
THE SPEC ON THIS CAR IS HUGE, IT WOULD TAKE ME ALL NIGHT TO GO THROUGH IT AS IT IS A FOOT DEEP, SO PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL TO DISCUSS AS THIS WILL BE FARE EASIER. LAST OWNER FOR 25 YEARS AND VERY SELDOM USED.
THE CAR IS SUPERB AND I HAVE NOT SEEN BETTER, NOT ONLY RARE AND IMPORTANT BUT GREAT FUN AS SHE IS VERY, VERY, VERY QUICK!!!
both cars are (almost) the same price - £25,000, both look ace so anyone got any "real time" advice for me ??
thanks for your time guys
cheers
chris
Which way r u leaning?!
