Cross steer VS Suicide steer

[hillbillie hotrods]

Hi guy's i am running 4" tube dropped axle with a cross overspring front end with hairpins and i have a vega box not mounted yet and i'm not sure which way to go on the steering .

What are the pros and cons from one to the other is on better than the other , i really like the look of the suicide steer but i would like to know your opinion good or bad.

Thanks

 

[dmw56]

What is a suicide steer? Do you mean a traditional side steer used on Model As and other Fords up to 1935 when they went to cross steering.

 

[bob w]

Either arrangement works fine when built properly.

 

[hillbillie hotrods]

What is a suicide steer? Do you mean a traditional side steer used on Model As and other Fords up to 1935 when they went to cross steering.

Yes side steer

 

[hillbillie hotrods]

Either arrangement works fine when built properly.

Whats a good box to use with the side steer , year , make , model

 

[Tim...Ok]

Whats a good box to use with the side steer , year , make , model

seems like most use a reversed corvair box for side steer..I'm using one off a 53 chevy truck for mine, but its kinka clunky..corvair takes up less space

Tim

 

[dmw56]

You can also use a Ford 1948-52 F1 or 1953-56 F100 truck boxes.

 

[bob w]

It is suggested that the reversed Corvair box be used in light cars like T Buckets. They are not very strong.
I have used '67 & earlier Econoline (but the pitman arm is a bit of a problem) and Toyota FJ40 (I think that's the model). Early VW bus units are said to work well. Early Chevy van looks like it would work.
When using a 4 bar front, early Mustang boxes were commonly used.

 

[RPM]

Whats a good box to use with the side steer , year , make , model

We use either a reversed Corvair or a Vega. The Corvair goes on top of the frame and the Vega goes under the frame. If the frame is very low to the ground, the Vega may not work, as it takes up several inches of room. The Vega is easier to come by and cost a lot less than a reversed Corvair.

By the way we have both on the shelf.

 

[26Troadster]

some use early mustang boxes too.

 

[hillbillie hotrods]

We use either a reversed Corvair or a Vega. The Corvair goes on top of the frame and the Vega goes under the frame. If the frame is very low to the ground, the Vega may not work, as it takes up several inches of room. The Vega is easier to come by and cost a lot less than a reversed Corvair.

By the way we have both on the shelf.

Do you have any pictures of the vega box used for side steer

Thanks HB

 

[Willowbilly3]

Besides the normal ones mentioned, almost any good tight box from a side steer arrangement can be made to work. I like the old econoline because they are built better than the old 30s-40s stuff. I am saving one from a late 30s IH because it is a good tight box and a Ross. Also any of the 60s-70s Ford 4x4 boxes would work fine if you had the room. Of course I assume that they would all be mounted on to of the frame and the pitman arm pointing down.

 

[RPM]

Do you have any pictures of the vega bov used for side steer

Thanks HB

 

[glockster]

I used a late 60s dart steering box with a home made pitman arm. Not on the road yet but seems like it will work fine.

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